In this interview, Australian
negotiator, who has been working closely with the leadership of the Boko Haram
sect, pleads with the group to seize the window provided by the death of Shekau
to end the destructive cycle of insurgency in parts of Nigeria, free captured
Chubok girls and return to normal life. Excerpts:
A senior member of the European
Parliament, Franz Obermayr, alleged that the opposition party in Nigeria could
be sponsoring Boko Haram by channeling European Parliament financial aid to
Boko Haram in the North East of Nigeria. Do you have any such evidence?
Australian negotiator, Dr. Stephen
Davis, and Boko Haram commanders in 2013 after BH reportedly agreed to dialogue
I have never heard any political
party mentioned by any Boko Haram leader as funding or being associated with
Boko Haram.
The Boko Haram commanders have only
mentioned individuals like former Governor Sheriff. I heard Sheriff was APC and
now PDP but that is irrelevant to me.
I have never mentioned political
parties in my discussions with Boko Haram. The names of individual sponsors
were given by Boko Haram leaders, not their political party association.
What sort of sponsorship has been
mentioned by Boko Haram that they have received?
Former governor Sheriff was specifically
mentioned many times. Specifically for example, Sheriff was mentioned as
sponsoring trips of the boys to the Lesser Hajj. There, the boys are
“reorientated”.
In effect they are recruited to Boko
Haram. When they return to Nigeria the recruits are then taken off for further
reorientation by which they mean teaching and for training. Some of the
training took place in Mali by Tuareg leaders but now more training is
conducted locally.
Could mere funding for Lesser Hajj
by the assumed sponsors have manifested in the high level of sophistication
that the sect has assumed today?
Funds are provided to purchase
weapons. This is sometimes transferred through the Central Bank of Nigeria to a
person in Cairo who provides the weapons and also provides military uniforms.
At other times vehicles are
purchased in Benin for example and driven into Nigeria where they are sold for
cash. They do not mind taking a loss on the sale price as by this method they
can obtain cash in Nigeria without a direct link to the sponsor.
This person in Cairo, is he an
Egyptian? Why are you not able to disclose his identity to the security agents
for necessary action?
No, he is Nigerian. He is a Kanuri
who has fought with Boko Haram and now associates with a network of jihadists.
I have given all his details to the DG-SSS.
What sort of vehicles do they
purchase?
VW Golf was mentioned as a
favourite. They can sell these very easily in Nigeria. They do keep some to use
for suicide bombing. Some time ago they told me one sponsor pledged six Hilux
vehicles for the suicide bombers.
You have heard that a “fake” Shekau
was killed last week in Kondunga. Do you believe what the military is claiming
that the man killed was Shekau or possibly a “fake” Shekau?
I continue to believe that Shekau was
killed on or about June 19, 2013 when we were deeply engaged in peace
discussions. I have had so many senior commanders tell me that Shekau is dead.
It was several weeks after that a Shekau video appeared on YouTube. When I
viewed that video with JAS leaders they immediately said, “That boy.
We have used him before.” They were
totally dismissive of any claim that Shekau was still alive. They referred to
the person in the video as the “fake Shekau”. Some months later one of the
senior commanders told me the name of the fake Shekau was Abdul Mutallif. The
commander who named him was the one who wrote the script that the fake Shekau
reads from in the videos.
But I have heard they have used more
than one fake Shekau. In July this year I was told the fake Shekau is Isa
Damasaka. Earlier in June they referred to him as Bashir.
We had been in communication with
him over the release of the Chibok girls. Isa Damasaka is one of the names the
military has released when identifying the man killed at Kondunga last week. He
has also been identified as Bashir Mohammed so I am confident this man is
indeed the fake Shekau.
However, I do not know if Abdul
Mutallif is another name he used or there is another fake Shekau named Abdul
Mutallif who may still be alive. I have no doubt we will know soon so we await
a new video by another fake Shekau.
The man who was captured at Kondunga
last week was a great source of information about Boko Haram sponsors. He was
captured alive. The military are too quick to execute captured Boko Haram
leaders. This man could have revealed so much about Boko Haram and its sponsors
that may have brought a quick end to the terrorism.
There are some reports that many
Boko Haram fighters have surrendered in recent days. You want to say something
on this?
This is an indication that Boko Haram commanders now understand that they have been fooled. They have followed a “fake” Shekau. Boko Haram fighters have died following a fake Shekau and fake teaching.
This is an indication that Boko Haram commanders now understand that they have been fooled. They have followed a “fake” Shekau. Boko Haram fighters have died following a fake Shekau and fake teaching.
The political sponsors have led
these boys to believe that they are purifying Islam, purging the country of
corruption by slaughtering people. In fact the political sponsors of Boko Haram
are corrupt politicians seeking power and more wealth. The sponsors epitomise
all that the Boko Haram fighters are seeking to eliminate from Nigeria.
So what is next for Boko Haram?
So what is next for Boko Haram?
The death of the fake Shekau shows
how the fighters have been duped and totally misled by the sponsors.
The fighters and commanders would be
wise to take this opportunity to reach out to the government for a peace
dialogue.
If they do not believe they can have
a peace dialogue without being captured and executed the alternative message I
have for the commanders is this: Your sponsors will use you and sacrifice you
so they can gain power. Set the captive girls free and walk away from Boko
Haram while you still have the opportunity.
God save us
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